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109. Stunner Shades and Bald Man Mullets: An Introduction to Calling in the Arts

Here we are in 2022, and we are pumped to be throwing more great conversation and topics your way. After a few weeks off and Garreth losing his voice, it is time to get back into the studio and focus on what it is we are doing as creative professionals and why it matters so much. And not just to us as practitioners, but to a world that is starving for the work we do.

This week, Ryan and Garreth sit down to open up a fresh can of worms: calling. This is something a lot of us feel, but not very many of us can understand it. That weird something that keeps bringing you back to creative work, that feels stretched and limber when you use your hands to create something, that feeling that just feels satisfied when you are in the studio listening to us and making great stuff. It’s a hairy beast of a topic, but we love those things. Strap in; we’ve got a few rounds to go with this one.

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Stream our documentary The Builder!
For a limited time, our documentary The Builder is available to stream on Vimeo! The film centers on the art scene in Richmond, Virginia, with a focus on Oregon Hill native and contractor Don Childress, who–to the surprise of many–has an incredible contemporary art collection. This collection includes work from Francisco Clemente, Ron Johnson, and Bill Fisher to name just a few. Check out more at The Builder’s website.

Help Ken Gilbertson and Hatchback Gallery!
Our good friend Ken is trying to update Hatchback Gallery to better serve his new city and its art lovers. While he won’t let anyone touch the outside of the gallery, he does want to get a few new parts and build some new walls. We are helping Ken launch a GoFundMe; even a few bucks can be a big help!

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